Brief Talk Podcast – Brief Tale Dio

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In this episode of the Brief Talk Podcast, Tim welcomes Dio, an Irish go-go dancer currently residing in Seoul, South Korea. Dio shares his intriguing journey into the world of underwear, revealing how it has played a significant role in his personal transformation. Previously lacking confidence due to weight concerns, Dio recalls his first purchase of a daring harness and thong from AliExpress, which sparked his interest in the power of underwear. He specifically expresses his fondness for Calvin Klein underwear, particularly the grey designs that effortlessly blend comfort and sexiness. Despite evolving trends, Dio has remained true to the underwear styles that make him feel special.

Tim delves into the influence of the Asian market on Dio’s underwear choices, given his relocation to Korea and involvement in go-go dancing. Dio acknowledges the distinct characteristics of Asian underwear designs, highlighting their silkier material and smaller, more revealing cuts. He finds the sexier fit of Asian underwear, particularly briefs, visually appealing, although they may not provide as much room as some may desire. Dio’s recent experience as a model for grey Calvin Klein underwear reinforces the subconscious draw towards familiar and comfortable choices. Throughout the conversation, the hosts celebrate the diverse options available in the world of underwear, emphasizing the importance of personal comfort and confidence when selecting underwear.

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Tim:
Hey everyone, welcome to another edition of the Brief Talk Podcast. We’re back with you. We have someone I ran across on Instagram through Cy. It is Dio. Welcome.

Dio:
Hello, thank you very much for having me.

Tim:
And if you noticed, he is not American by his

Dio:
No,

Tim:
accent.

Dio:
I am not. Ha ha ha.

Tim:
He is from Ireland, but that’s not the interesting part. Well, it is interesting, but the real interesting part, he’s in South Korea.

Dio:
Yes, I am currently in Seoul, South Korea.

Tim:
So, that’s a travel for ya, but yay, we got him on the podcast. I met him through Sy, who was wonderful, and he was in a picture with Sy, and I’m like, who is

Dio:
Hahaha

Tim:
this person? Where is this Irish guy in Seoul, South Korea, but he’s in Tokyo? Let’s find out

Dio:
Haha

Tim:
more about this. So we started talking, and bam, here he is. He’s on the show. Welcome!

Dio:
Thank you very much. Yes, it does sound about chaotic when you say it like that. But, it’s the most honest.

Tim:
It was just combinations I was not

Dio:
Yeah

Tim:
ready for, but it’s like, you know, that’s not a bad thing after

Dio:
No, that’s

Tim:
all.

Dio:
not…

Tim:
I kind of

Dio:
Yeah,

Tim:
like that.

Dio:
I’m here for a tea.

Tim:
It’s one of those words like, you know, I never would have thought of that combination, but yeah.

Dio:
Hmm.

Tim:
Yeah, that works. So, yes. So tell our listeners a little bit about you if they don’t follow you on social media or know who you are, which they will after this podcast, but…

Dio:
Well, I am currently, as they said there, I’m Irish and I’m actually from a city called Derry in the north. And I moved to Korea about five years ago and I’ve been living in Seoul for the last three years. And then, yeah, I’ve just kind of been traveling around Asia for a while. I’m 30 years old and I’m currently working in education but I’m also part-time model and go-go dancer. And I’m very into fitness and things like that.

Tim:
Mm-hmm.

Dio:
So that’s my kind of side hustle. And yeah, that’s just what I’ve been doing.

Tim:
Nice. Yeah, that’s how we signed because of the go-go pictures.

Dio:
Hehehe

Tim:
And I was like, since Sai gave us a lesson on the go-go culture and told us all about it, I’m like, well, we need more go-goes on here from Japan and Korea.

Dio:
Mm-hmm.

Tim:
Just saying. Just because. It’s just an amazing culture and so much fun and amazing.

Dio:
Yeah, very much so. It’s very exciting, because especially with Korea, it’s fairly new, and with Japan, it’s so established. So to do both of them, they’re very exciting in different ways, if you know what I mean.

Tim:
Oh yeah, it’s just, cause once I told me, I’m like, Go Go, really? And he just blew my mind when he told me all that. And I was like, that’s amazing, I love that. So yes. So let’s get to our first question. We’ll mix in more Go questions, don’t worry

Dio:
Yeah.

Tim:
people. So you wear amazing underwear when you Go dance. Have you always liked underwear? Has it been something you’ve always enjoyed?

Dio:
Well, actually, so years ago, I was really overweight and like was very uncomfortable and not confident in myself. And so underwear was never really something I focused much on. I’d always just wear like really basic like boxers and things that were just comfortable. And a lot of the time they were bought for like, my parents would buy me them and I would just be like, whatever.

Tim:
Mm-hmm.

Dio:
I never really thought about underwear in that way. And then it wasn’t until like a little bit older and then there was one day like I seen like these like kind of there was like do you know what it was it was like this really cheap like really cheap ass like song and I seen it on like aliexpress

Tim:
Mm-hmm.

Dio:
or whatever and I bought like my first harness at the same time and I remember being like oh like this is too risky but like I don’t feel good about myself so maybe this will make me feel good I don’t know why so I just was like fuck it let’s just go And so I went ahead and bought it and I tried it on and I remember feeling like, oh wow, I feel different. And I

Tim:
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Dio:
was like, oh, is this hot? Is this sexy? Like I remember being like, oh what? So that was kind of like the first time like I ever really took an interest or like even noticed how underwear could make you feel a little bit different, if you know what I mean. So,

Tim:
Mm-hmm.

Dio:
um, yeah, that was like the first from AliExpress of all places, like cheapest chips.

Tim:
There’s worse places to get underwear, but at least you made that first step because so many guys don’t even buy it. They just look at it and be like, oh no, I’m not

Dio:
Hmm,

Tim:
gonna buy it. But you

Dio:
and

Tim:
bought

Dio:
it was a

Tim:
it

Dio:
thong.

Tim:
and got it shipped

Dio:
A little

Tim:
to

Dio:
thong

Tim:
you.

Dio:
as well. I actually think I still have that. I actually think I still have it. Never wear it, of course, but yeah.

Tim:
Well now… Wow! I’m impressed you still

Dio:
long timekeeper

Tim:
have it!

Dio:
like you’re in this for all time’s sakes

Tim:
There you go. So you bought this first pair from AliExpress. When did you finally branch out and buy some good underwear to see what good underwear

Dio:
Well,

Tim:
was?

Dio:
actually, I had always kind of noticed, obviously, when you see advertisements on TV and whatever, and then on social media, Calvin Klein basic. I know they’re so basic, but the Calvin Klein, especially

Tim:
Mm-hmm.

Dio:
the grey ones, and you see they’ve got the sets, even with the girls, they have the crop tops and everything. Just the grey ones in particular really caught my eye. I don’t know why. And I think it’s something to do with because they look cozy but sexy, if you know what I mean.

Tim:
Mm-hmm.

Dio:
And then also the gray print, I mean come on now we all know about the gray tracks, like the gray trackies and the outlines

Tim:
Oh yes.

Dio:
and you know. So all that kind of harkens back to the same idea. So I was like, oh these look hot and comfortable ads actually. So they were like the first kind of designer brand. I know they’re not like super designer but like they were Calvin Klein so I thought you know what, they’re a designer, they’re a nice fit and also they were briefs. And I used to never

Tim:
Mm-hmm.

Dio:
wear briefs, I used to always wear boxers, so to wear briefs I was like, ooh I am so sexy right now. I am feeling

Tim:
Hehehe

Dio:
myself, I am loving this. Actually, ironically enough, I still buy those same, obviously not the same ones all the time, but I buy the same kind of style and usually the grey Calvin Klein ones I always seem to go back to them. I don’t know why actually. Maybe it was a subconscious thing

Tim:
That’s

Dio:
of

Tim:
fine.

Dio:
like, how they made me feel, so…

Tim:
Probably that I know a lot of people their first pairs they really got like that really Made them feel special a lot of times aren’t made anymore or they’re like a small brand they can’t find So I think it’s pretty awesome that you still wear the same ones Same styles from Calvin Klein that you got before so that’s pretty cool

Dio:
Mm-hmm No, yeah, it’s actually recently I did a photo shoot like a professional one in them and I didn’t even I mean again Like there was a good option if you get to choose like underwear What do you want to like present and there’s I mean, there’s a huge big like Option, there’s so many options of all many colors so many to set the size designers, whatever And again, I went back to them. I don’t know why.

Dio:
I just was like, it’s just my subconscious being like, you love these, just stay with it.

Tim:
It’s what you feel comfortable

Dio:
Exactly.

Tim:
in.

Dio:
And that’s what’s all that matters.

Tim:
But Calvin Klein makes good underwear. It’s not one I would call bottom of the barrel, but you know,

Dio:
Mm-hmm.

Tim:
it’s sexy, it’s fun. It can be a little more conservative, but it still makes it sexy as can be. I’m just

Dio:
Hmm,

Tim:
saying, just saying.

Dio:
I agree.

Tim:
Definitely. So, now that you’re in go-go

Dio:
Mm-hmm.

Tim:
dancing and moved to Korea. Have you branched out another style since you’ve been there? Because you know, the Asian market is very different from, especially America and some Europe. So have you, has that influenced your underwear selection since you’ve been there? Or are you still sticking with like the Calvin Klein’s?

Dio:
So actually, as you say, especially in Asia, the underwear design is a little different. I’m sure Sai probably mentioned this last time, but the material is always a lot more silkier, it’s a lot smaller, and they’re

Tim:
Mm-hmm.

Dio:
a lot more revealing, to be honest. So if you’re packing a lot, it’s not ideal for you. So they’re quite small, to be honest. But the way they sit is, I think, personally. a lot sexier than any other. I’m talking about briefs here

Tim:
Mm-hmm.

Dio:
specifically. They sit on your body a lot more like high rise but they look so hot. Especially when you’re like coconut sitting and whatever, they look so good. Only problem is if you’re going to do like a slut drop or something like that you have to be careful just in case it all falls out. So My ass is out. But it was, I mean, hot. They loved it. I had a good time. It didn’t matter. But yeah, there’s a lot of actual, especially like in Korea, there’s a lot of underwear brands here that are starting to really kick off that I’ve actually worked with as well in the past through Google shows or I’ve modeled for them. And they’re like some of my favorites actually. Especially there’s a brand that I modeled for recently called Uncensored Scene. like it’s UCSD scene and they have mostly just underwear. They do a lot of like jewelry, like necklaces and bracelets. And they started doing like harnesses, but not leather ones, just like an underwear kind of harness. But

Tim:
Okay.

Dio:
they’re one of my favorite brands. I wear them almost every day, like especially their necklaces and their underwear as well, as I say, like for shows. They’re always coming up with new stuff and actually they have a new line coming out soon. So make sure you check that out. Also another brand I work with is NPNC, like No Pick No Chat, but theirs is like No Pride No Chat, which I love. I think this is really cool.

Tim:
No.

Dio:
And they’re actually more of a designer as such. They make clothes like shirts and pants and whatever, but they also make a lot of underwear. So there’s a few times I’ve actually go-go-danced wearing their brand as well, so they sponsor a lot of the shows in Korea for go-go-dancing. But yeah, I definitely noticed that the Asian style is a lot different from the Western style, probably because, I don’t know, just the smaller body frames. And personally

Tim:
Mm-hmm.

Dio:
for me, I’m a short guy anyway. So… They fit for me perfectly, I have no problem. I love them honestly. My drawers are full of the Uncensored scene underwear and NPN scene underwear from Pathshows and things that I’ve liked and I bought them again. Those are my two go-tos in Korea. Also, not to make it international, but there’s another brand that I actually… buy quite often from, and they’re from Scotland and they’re called the Darkroom brand. It’s actually owned by, you’ve probably heard of it before, but it’s owned by PJ Knox, the porn star, and Andres, his fiance. They’re actually good friends of mine and they do a lot of, they’re always coming up with new stuff. I actually have managed to gather a lot of things from the Darkroom brand. And one of my favorite pieces that I got from them is this little like jockstrap, but the jockstrap has these metal buckles on it. So like you can just click them and they come off. And like last time I was doing a go-go show, I wore them and they were really comfortable as well for on stage, but also really handy for like if you’re going to do like a towel show, like they’re perfect because they just,

Tim:
I

Dio:
you just click them and they fall off and they sit. on my body, I don’t know, they’re like cut perfectly, they look like a glove. And they’re one of my favorites at the moment that I have. I’ve actually had a few photos online wearing all of these brands and underwear, so I’m sure if anybody wants to check them out, you can see them. But yeah, the Darkroom brand, that’s one of my new favorites as well, and also because of friends of friends, but their style and the quality of their products are insane, it’s so good.

Tim:
Nice, those are three very different brands, which I

Dio:
Yeah.

Tim:
like that. That’s good. Yeah, because Sai explained to us about the underwear over there and how it’s what they like, what they don’t like, what they find sexy. So it’s way different from here of what is considered sexy and then told us about the towel shows and opened my eyes to all things go over there. And it was just like,

Dio:
Hehehe

Tim:
oh my god. gotta go, this is amazing.

Dio:
Hehehe

Tim:
And so it’s really cool to hear how the underwear is being mixed in, how, you know, how is go-go dancing different in Korea than Japan?

Dio:
Well, that’s the thing. So, go-go dancing is fairly new to Korea in the sense that in our nightlife scene, go-go dancing has only started really kicking off in this last year. And they don’t do it as often as they do in Japan. It’s easy, obviously, online almost every single week there’s some kind of show, something happening for go-goes in Japan, and there’s a roster of like 20 guys that are almost everywhere

Tim:
Mm-hmm.

Dio:
all the time. In Korea, it’s not really like that at all. We don’t really have that many. There’s, I would say like we have some go-gos, but a lot of them would don’t do shows either in Korea or will do shows in other places. Like there’s a few guys that will go and they’ve done songkran in Thailand, or they would do some shows in Japan. Um, but they never really perform in Korea. And I guess that’s down to like social conservatism. Like it’s just.

Tim:
Mm-hmm.

Dio:
In Korea, it’s a lot more conservative than Japan, especially in the gay scene. Nobody really wants to put themselves out there in that way. Even sometimes when we’re doing promos, they’ll cover our face in the promos just to respect your privacy sort of thing. For me, I don’t care because I’m lucky to be openly gay and not care about that, or even my family will know about that. My family even follow me on social media, which is weird but funny.

Tim:
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Dio:
and they see what I’m doing, they know what I do, so they’re like, work diva. So I’m just like, whatever. I don’t care, but I know other Koreans that it’s very serious for them, so respecting their privacy, I get it, but also then it’s kind of like, I don’t really understand the sense of like, you’re going to go on stage and dance and they’re all going to see you, but you don’t want the picture being put online, so it’s kind of like… contradictory a little bit but I understand the same sense of like it is all about respect to privacy and what you’re comfortable with and I get that. But also a lot of the guys here they’re not really trying to make careers out of go-go dancing. Some of them are but most of them aren’t but most of them just they were asked and they will do it for a bit of fun and yeah it’s just it’s not really that serious for them. But as I say like there’s a lot of guys that will go to Japan for shows and actually myself included I’m planning on doing a show in Japan. Tokyo very soon, which is a big deal for me because branching out to go international. So very excited

Tim:
Oh.

Dio:
for that. But again, as I say, because of a lot of shows in Korea, like Go! Dancing isn’t really that big. And a lot of the time they’ll get go-gos from Japan to Korea to do shows. And yes, I understand that because a lot of time in Korea too, they are seen a lot more like as celebrities. In Japan, it’s less serious. They’re like, oh, that’s such an outay. But like, I didn’t realize that. I was like, oh my god, fangirl. And like when I was there, and they were just like, yeah, that’s just whatever. Like, they don’t really care. And I was like, oh, right. OK. But then when they come to Korea, they get all that fangirls and oh my god. So they get a lot of attention. So if like Japanese go-go boys come to Korea, like I’m totally like, yeah, come here because they will eat you up. They will love you. But in the same sense, it’s like, why don’t we have that? Like, we only have. We’ll do a show maybe once a month, which is dependent, it’s not always certain. But I’ve done all the big clubs in Seoul, which has been great. I’ve been very honored and privileged to do all that, especially being white in this environment. I mean, it’s not very, not to say that it’s racist or anything, but it’s not very welcoming to others. Every go-go dancer in Japan and Korea are Asians of some sort. But majority of them,

Tim:
Mm-hmm.

Dio:
especially in Japan, I would say like 95% are Japanese and then in Korea there’s like 99% of them are Korean and then me. Hello! So just

Tim:
Hahaha.

Dio:
me. But again, I think it is more like a conservative idea in Korea that that’s why it’s harder to get gogos. And also a lot of times gogos are saying like they don’t really, they don’t care. They’re not really planning on making this a part of their career or any form of like, not that it’s a career, but you know what I mean, it’s not a part of their gigs. They’re

Tim:
Mm-hmm.

Dio:
not really serious about it. But there are a few and it is getting better and it’s getting bigger, especially at the moment. I’ve noticed that there’s a few guys now that have been, that are being recruited for some shows. So we love to see that. So I’m like, yes, I love to, more representation, please, come on. Like we need to show up. Because

Tim:
Mm-hmm.

Dio:
if we’re going to start doing go-go dance and we can’t look like, no, we have to try and compete with Japan here, so come on, let’s get it, let’s get some team

Tim:
Yeah.

Dio:
together or get some scene, you know? But it is getting better and luckily there’s a lot of clubs like Gym Club in Seoul and King Club. King Club is mostly K-pop but they sometimes do go-go shows. Gym Club is a

Tim:
Mm-hmm.

Dio:
circuit club which is where all the big go-gos go and I’ve done there a few times, like I’ve done there a couple times and it’s really good. I love it there. It’s just perfect for what we’re talking about. Eagle Soul has started doing go-go shows as well. Actually, I was so honored to get to do that show last time. That was actually the first time I met Sai.

Tim:
So nice.

Dio:
Eagle Soul has been my go-to. Every time I go out, it’s the place I go. I was just so honored to be able to actually go there as well because they didn’t really ever do go-go shows until recently. As I say, the go-go scene is expanding and there is more happening, so I’m very honored and glad to be a part of it. I just hope I can keep pushing for the Koreans as well. Although I’m Irish, I’m still representing Seoul. Even when I

Tim:
Yes.

Dio:
go to Tokyo and people are asking, oh, the book go-go shows, I’m like, yeah, I’m Irish, but I’ve never done a show in Ireland, so I’m representing Seoul. They’re like, the Korean go-go, but you’re Irish? I’m like, yes.

Tim:
Yes.

Dio:
So it doesn’t really make sense, but the same thing is I’m Team Korea, so…

Tim:
Nice. So how did you get Gogo dancing to begin with?

Dio:
Well, there was actually it was an Eagle Soul about two years ago. And about a year ago, it was just it was just at the very break. Actually, two years ago, it was in Korea because Korea hadn’t really had much bother with COVID at the time. And they were just like they were locking down and doing all that. But they were still things happening. And there was like some kind of party at Eagle Soul. And there was a guy they were doing like some kind of go-go show. But it wasn’t really a show. It wasn’t like a go-go show as such. It was like. a performance, like a BDSM kind of performance thing. And

Tim:
Okay.

Dio:
I remember, as I say, I’m always an eagle. And of course, I was like super drunk and was like just vibing because they were playing like a remix for like Megan Thee Stallion. And I was obviously like losing my mind. So I was just dancing and like just having fun with my friends. And like, one of the organizers of that party seen me there, was like, oh, like, no, you have a lot of energy. And you’re down to party, whatever. and they had kept an eye on me. And then I started getting in shape and started doing modeling and started doing things like that. And then they were like, hey, do you want to do a go-go show with us? It was for Gay Pride last year. There was an event at Gym Club. I can’t remember the name of it. And basically they had hired some go-gos and they needed one more. And they asked me and I was like, oh. I’ve never done this, but like, are you sure it’s okay? Because I’m a foreigner and all this.” And they were like, yeah, of course, no worries. So like, I was like, right, sure, let’s do it. So, um, yeah, they, that was my first show in gym club. And I had the best, I mean, it was out of all the places to do a show, gym club is like the biggest. And I was like, oh my God, throwing the deep end here. So

Dio:
I did gym club and king club on the same night and I remember just being like, oh my God, what is my life? Like, this is crazy. And like, I had so much fun. Like, I just really, really loved it. And I always said when I was younger, I like, because like, as I said before, like I used to be really overweight. And like, when I was younger, like I remember saying like, if I had the body, I’d be such a good cooker dancer. I used to always say this when I was drunk, by the way. Ha ha ha. Disclaimer,

Tim:
Yeah. Hahaha.

Dio:
I was a little less drunk and feeling myself. I’ve been a good Google dancer and I’m just very proud of myself now that I’ve been able to do this now, like from thinking like I could never have the opportunity to do it and now they actually get the opportunity to do it. It’s just very, it’s just very nice. I’m very proud of myself.

Tim:
Nice, now you from all the videos and pictures I’ve seen on your Instagram it looks like you’re killing

Dio:
Thank

Tim:
it

Dio:
you very much.

Tim:
and having fun with doing it which is the most important

Dio:
Mm-hmm.

Tim:
which is amazing because talking with you over Instagram has been really fun the last week we said we’ve been chatting so I was

Dio:
Aw,

Tim:
like

Dio:
thank you very much.

Tim:
we definitely got to

Dio:
You

Tim:
get him

Dio:
too,

Tim:
on

Dio:
it’s

Tim:
you

Dio:
been great.

Tim:
So you have the energy and you have everything and I’m trying to bring more international people onto the podcast and like I said when I found out you’re Irish and in Korea I was like jackpot

Dio:
Hahaha

Tim:
we hit

Dio:
I’m

Tim:
it

Dio:
gonna go.

Tim:
so it’s good to bring on other people and bring on other points of view and everything and talk about different things and culture and We have a mix of gay straight bi, so it’s just, it’s really fun to hear people’s stories and hear how underwear fits in there with it, and it’s not just something you wear, but something that’s fun, and you wear shows, and you have favorite brands, so that’s amazing.

Dio:
Yeah, because a lot of the time it is about the underwear that you’re wearing because we’re just dancers, we’re just whatever. We’re basically walking billboards for a lot of brands. So I love representing brands that I love and doing the things that I like to do. So it’s always good. It’s a full circle. You’re helping them, but they’re helping you. So it’s great. I love it.

Tim:
It’s a great way to sell underwear, especially when you’re there. It’s like, hello,

Dio:
Uh-huh.

Tim:
get some go-go boys and sell some underwear.

Dio:
Exactly.

Tim:
We need go-go culture here like that. We need… It’s not the same here, but you know.

Dio:
Really? I thought they had a big scene there.

Tim:
We have, we have Goga Boys, but it’s not like the way Psy has it and go out night to night and here’s people or you follow. There’s like a couple of people you’d follow, but no one like you would think, oh, someone’s dancing, let’s go. And it’s

Dio:
Yeah.

Tim:
like, because Japan, it’s like, oh, Psy’s dancing or one of the other guys is dancing. So you want to go out. And there it’s like, OK, they can dance. Here’s some dancers. But it’s not like.

Dio:
Yeah.

Tim:
Household names so I’m like we need some like household names and

Dio:
With

Tim:
stuff

Dio:
us, it’s similar to Japan. They would be like, oh my god, such and such a beautiful show, there, let’s go. Almost Google Boys are held to the same standard as Drag Queens, which is weird. In America,

Tim:
Mm-hmm.

Dio:
obviously Drag Queens are the main thing and then the Google Boys are the backup, just whatever. But

Tim:
Yes.

Dio:
here, we’re on the same level. Sometimes actually, they will try and book us for gigs with Drag Queens a lot of the time.

Tim:
Mm-hmm.

Dio:
We are on the same stage, same level kind of idea here.

Tim:
Yeah, because Sai explained it that drag is crazy here, big, and he goes, well, go-go’s here and drag is not

Dio:
Exactly.

Tim:
so big. So it’s like, so I’m like, we

Dio:
I

Tim:
need

Dio:
agree,

Tim:
go-go’s.

Dio:
Korea

Tim:
We need some

Dio:
is

Tim:
go-go’s.

Dio:
the same, the Gugud culture is a lot bigger than the Drag culture. But it’s getting bigger.

Tim:
I was like, I’m like, we can keep her drag queens, but we just need some go-go boys too. I’m just saying.

Dio:
Yeah, exactly. Room for everybody.

Tim:
There’s room for both.

Dio:
Okay.

Tim:
There’s room for both. And they can work together every so often.

Dio:
Exactly.

Tim:
So perfect. Perfect match.

Dio:
I

Tim:
Perfect

Dio:
agree.

Tim:
match.

Dio:
I totally agree. I support this.

Tim:
Yay. So that’ll wrap up our podcast. It was amazing having you on. It was a lot of

Dio:
Thank

Tim:
fun.

Dio:
you very much for having me.

Tim:
I know

Dio:
I’ve been honoured.

Tim:
it’s pleasure and our listeners will enjoy it, I’m sure. And just, we said this beforehand, but just in case you could not understand his accent, because I know if you’re down, if you’re down south near me and you have a country accent and you’re used to it, you may not be able to. We do have transcripts now, so just go to the blog and there will be a transcript below the podcast. So you can read anything you need to.

Dio:
I-

Tim:
But I understood perfectly, so

Dio:
Alright

Tim:
hopefully you boys should

Dio:
I apologize

Tim:
too.

Dio:
if you don’t, but it is what it is. Hahaha.

Tim:
Different people get different, you

Dio:
That’s it.

Tim:
know, but you know, just so you know starting last show We now have transcripts below every podcast Because our new stuff breaks it out by person and it’s not a just big mesh together. So Yay,

Dio:
Yeah,

Tim:
we’re very happy for that.

Dio:
good.

Tim:
So Thank you’re welcome people. So Tell everyone where they can find you on social media where they can follow

Dio:
Well,

Tim:
you

Dio:
I’m on Instagram at underscore Dio dot X underscore and I’m also on Twitter at ginger underscore muscle underscore. And so yeah, you can find me on Instagram and Twitter.

Tim:
Awesome. Go follow him if you don’t. We’ll have his links for his social media in the show notes, just in case. And thank you again for coming

Dio:
Thank you so

Tim:
on.

Dio:
much for having me. It’s been great fun. Thank you.

Tim:
Definitely have a good week everyone,

Dio:
Bye!

Tim:
bye!