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In this episode of the Brief Talk Podcast, Tim welcomes Dio, an Irish go-go dancer currently residing in Seoul, South Korea. Dio shares his intriguing journey into the world of underwear, revealing how it has played a significant role in his personal transformation. Previously lacking confidence due to weight concerns, Dio recalls his first purchase of a daring harness and thong from AliExpress, which sparked his interest in the power of underwear. He specifically expresses his fondness for Calvin Klein underwear, particularly the grey designs that effortlessly blend comfort and sexiness. Despite evolving trends, Dio has remained true to the underwear styles that make him feel special.

Tim delves into the influence of the Asian market on Dio’s underwear choices, given his relocation to Korea and involvement in go-go dancing. Dio acknowledges the distinct characteristics of Asian underwear designs, highlighting their silkier material and smaller, more revealing cuts. He finds the sexier fit of Asian underwear, particularly briefs, visually appealing, although they may not provide as much room as some may desire. Dio’s recent experience as a model for grey Calvin Klein underwear reinforces the subconscious draw towards familiar and comfortable choices. Throughout the conversation, the hosts celebrate the diverse options available in the world of underwear, emphasizing the importance of personal comfort and confidence when selecting underwear.

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Tim:
Hey everyone, welcome to another edition of the Brief Talk Podcast. We’re back with you. We have someone I ran across on Instagram through Cy. It is Dio. Welcome.

Dio:
Hello, thank you very much for having me.

Tim:
And if you noticed, he is not American by his

Dio:
No,

Tim:
accent.

Dio:
I am not. Ha ha ha.

Tim:
He is from Ireland, but that’s not the interesting part. Well, it is interesting, but the real interesting part, he’s in South Korea.

Dio:
Yes, I am currently in Seoul, South Korea.

Tim:
So, that’s a travel for ya, but yay, we got him on the podcast. I met him through Sy, who was wonderful, and he was in a picture with Sy, and I’m like, who is

Dio:
Hahaha

Tim:
this person? Where is this Irish guy in Seoul, South Korea, but he’s in Tokyo? Let’s find out

Dio:
Haha

Tim:
more about this. So we started talking, and bam, here he is. He’s on the show. Welcome!

Dio:
Thank you very much. Yes, it does sound about chaotic when you say it like that. But, it’s the most honest.

Tim:
It was just combinations I was not

Dio:
Yeah

Tim:
ready for, but it’s like, you know, that’s not a bad thing after

Dio:
No, that’s

Tim:
all.

Dio:
not…

Tim:
I kind of

Dio:
Yeah,

Tim:
like that.

Dio:
I’m here for a tea.

Tim:
It’s one of those words like, you know, I never would have thought of that combination, but yeah.

Dio:
Hmm.

Tim:
Yeah, that works. So, yes. So tell our listeners a little bit about you if they don’t follow you on social media or know who you are, which they will after this podcast, but…

Dio:
Well, I am currently, as they said there, I’m Irish and I’m actually from a city called Derry in the north. And I moved to Korea about five years ago and I’ve been living in Seoul for the last three years. And then, yeah, I’ve just kind of been traveling around Asia for a while. I’m 30 years old and I’m currently working in education but I’m also part-time model and go-go dancer. And I’m very into fitness and things like that.

Tim:
Mm-hmm.

Dio:
So that’s my kind of side hustle. And yeah, that’s just what I’ve been doing.

Tim:
Nice. Yeah, that’s how we signed because of the go-go pictures.

Dio:
Hehehe

Tim:
And I was like, since Sai gave us a lesson on the go-go culture and told us all about it, I’m like, well, we need more go-goes on here from Japan and Korea.

Dio:
Mm-hmm.

Tim:
Just saying. Just because. It’s just an amazing culture and so much fun and amazing.

Dio:
Yeah, very much so. It’s very exciting, because especially with Korea, it’s fairly new, and with Japan, it’s so established. So to do both of them, they’re very exciting in different ways, if you know what I mean.

Tim:
Oh yeah, it’s just, cause once I told me, I’m like, Go Go, really? And he just blew my mind when he told me all that. And I was like, that’s amazing, I love that. So yes. So let’s get to our first question. We’ll mix in more Go questions, don’t worry

Dio:
Yeah.

Tim:
people. So you wear amazing underwear when you Go dance. Have you always liked underwear? Has it been something you’ve always enjoyed?

Dio:
Well, actually, so years ago, I was really overweight and like was very uncomfortable and not confident in myself. And so underwear was never really something I focused much on. I’d always just wear like really basic like boxers and things that were just comfortable. And a lot of the time they were bought for like, my parents would buy me them and I would just be like, whatever.

Tim:
Mm-hmm.

Dio:
I never really thought about underwear in that way. And then it wasn’t until like a little bit older and then there was one day like I seen like these like kind of there was like do you know what it was it was like this really cheap like really cheap ass like song and I seen it on like aliexpress

Tim:
Mm-hmm.

Dio:
or whatever and I bought like my first harness at the same time and I remember being like oh like this is too risky but like I don’t feel good about myself so maybe this will make me feel good I don’t know why so I just was like fuck it let’s just go And so I went ahead and bought it and I tried it on and I remember feeling like, oh wow, I feel different. And I

Tim:
Hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe

Dio:
was like, oh, is this hot? Is this sexy? Like I remember being like, oh what? So that was kind of like the first time like I ever really took an interest or like even noticed how underwear could make you feel a little bit different, if you know what I mean. So,

Tim:
Mm-hmm.

Dio:
um, yeah, that was like the first from AliExpress of all places, like cheapest chips.

Tim:
There’s worse places to get underwear, but at least you made that first step because so many guys don’t even buy it. They just look at it and be like, oh no, I’m not

Dio:
Hmm,

Tim:
gonna buy it. But you

Dio:
and

Tim:
bought

Dio:
it was a

Tim:
it

Dio:
thong.

Tim:
and got it shipped

Dio:
A little

Tim:
to

Dio:
thong

Tim:
you.

Dio:
as well. I actually think I still have that. I actually think I still have it. Never wear it, of course, but yeah.

Tim:
Well now… Wow! I’m impressed you still

Dio:
long timekeeper

Tim:
have it!

Dio:
like you’re in this for all time’s sakes

Tim:
There you go. So you bought this first pair from AliExpress. When did you finally branch out and buy some good underwear to see what good underwear

Dio:
Well,

Tim:
was?

Dio:
actually, I had always kind of noticed, obviously, when you see advertisements on TV and whatever, and then on social media, Calvin Klein basic. I know they’re so basic, but the Calvin Klein, especially

Tim:
Mm-hmm.

Dio:
the grey ones, and you see they’ve got the sets, even with the girls, they have the crop tops and everything. Just the grey ones in particular really caught my eye. I don’t know why. And I think it’s something to do with because they look cozy but sexy, if you know what I mean.

Tim:
Mm-hmm.

Dio:
And then also the gray print, I mean come on now we all know about the gray tracks, like the gray trackies and the outlines

Tim:
Oh yes.

Dio:
and you know. So all that kind of harkens back to the same idea. So I was like, oh these look hot and comfortable ads actually. So they were like the first kind of designer brand. I know they’re not like super designer but like they were Calvin Klein so I thought you know what, they’re a designer, they’re a nice fit and also they were briefs. And I used to never

Tim:
Mm-hmm.

Dio:
wear briefs, I used to always wear boxers, so to wear briefs I was like, ooh I am so sexy right now. I am feeling

Tim:
Hehehe

Dio:
myself, I am loving this. Actually, ironically enough, I still buy those same, obviously not the same ones all the time, but I buy the same kind of style and usually the grey Calvin Klein ones I always seem to go back to them. I don’t know why actually. Maybe it was a subconscious thing

Tim:
That’s

Dio:
of

Tim:
fine.

Dio:
like, how they made me feel, so…

Tim:
Probably that I know a lot of people their first pairs they really got like that really Made them feel special a lot of times aren’t made anymore or they’re like a small brand they can’t find So I think it’s pretty awesome that you still wear the same ones Same styles from Calvin Klein that you got before so that’s pretty cool

Dio:
Mm-hmm No, yeah, it’s actually recently I did a photo shoot like a professional one in them and I didn’t even I mean again Like there was a good option if you get to choose like underwear What do you want to like present and there’s I mean, there’s a huge big like Option, there’s so many options of all many colors so many to set the size designers, whatever And again, I went back to them. I don’t know why.

Tim:
Hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe

Dio:
I just was like, it’s just my subconscious being like, you love these, just stay with it.

Tim:
It’s what you feel comfortable

Dio:
Exactly.

Tim:
in.

Dio:
And that’s what’s all that matters.

Tim:
But Calvin Klein makes good underwear. It’s not one I would call bottom of the barrel, but you know,

Dio:
Mm-hmm.

Tim:
it’s sexy, it’s fun. It can be a little more conservative, but it still makes it sexy as can be. I’m just

Dio:
Hmm,

Tim:
saying, just saying.

Dio:
I agree.

Tim:
Definitely. So, now that you’re in go-go

Dio:
Mm-hmm.

Tim:
dancing and moved to Korea. Have you branched out another style since you’ve been there? Because you know, the Asian market is very different from, especially America and some Europe. So have you, has that influenced your underwear selection since you’ve been there? Or are you still sticking with like the Calvin Klein’s?

Dio:
So actually, as you say, especially in Asia, the underwear design is a little different. I’m sure Sai probably mentioned this last time, but the material is always a lot more silkier, it’s a lot smaller, and they’re

Tim:
Mm-hmm.

Dio:
a lot more revealing, to be honest. So if you’re packing a lot, it’s not ideal for you. So they’re quite small, to be honest. But the way they sit is, I think, personally. a lot sexier than any other. I’m talking about briefs here

Tim:
Mm-hmm.

Dio:
specifically. They sit on your body a lot more like high rise but they look so hot. Especially when you’re like coconut sitting and whatever, they look so good. Only problem is if you’re going to do like a slut drop or something like that you have to be careful just in case it all falls out. So My ass is out. But it was, I mean, hot. They loved it. I had a good time. It didn’t matter. But yeah, there’s a lot of actual, especially like in Korea, there’s a lot of underwear brands here that are starting to really kick off that I’ve actually worked with as well in the past through Google shows or I’ve modeled for them. And they’re like some of my favorites actually. Especially there’s a brand that I modeled for recently called Uncensored Scene. like it’s UCSD scene and they have mostly just underwear. They do a lot of like jewelry, like necklaces and bracelets. And they started doing like harnesses, but not leather ones, just like an underwear kind of harness. But

Tim:
Okay.

Dio:
they’re one of my favorite brands. I wear them almost every day, like especially their necklaces and their underwear as well, as I say, like for shows. They’re always coming up with new stuff and actually they have a new line coming out soon. So make sure you check that out. Also another brand I work with is NPNC, like No Pick No Chat, but theirs is like No Pride No Chat, which I love. I think this is really cool.

Tim:
No.

Dio:
And they’re actually more of a designer as such. They make clothes like shirts and pants and whatever, but they also make a lot of underwear. So there’s a few times I’ve actually go-go-danced wearing their brand as well, so they sponsor a lot of the shows in Korea for go-go-dancing. But yeah, I definitely noticed that the Asian style is a lot different from the Western style, probably because, I don’t know, just the smaller body frames. And personally

Tim:
Mm-hmm.

Dio:
for me, I’m a short guy anyway. So… They fit for me perfectly, I have no problem. I love them honestly. My drawers are full of the Uncensored scene underwear and NPN scene underwear from Pathshows and things that I’ve liked and I bought them again. Those are my two go-tos in Korea. Also, not to make it international, but there’s another brand that I actually… buy quite often from, and they’re from Scotland and they’re called the Darkroom brand. It’s actually owned by, you’ve probably heard of it before, but it’s owned by PJ Knox, the porn star, and Andres, his fiance. They’re actually good friends of mine and they do a lot of, they’re always coming up with new stuff. I actually have managed to gather a lot of things from the Darkroom brand. And one of my favorite pieces that I got from them is this little like jockstrap, but the jockstrap has these metal buckles on it. So like you can just click them and they come off. And like last time I was doing a go-go show, I wore them and they were really comfortable as well for on stage, but also really handy for like if you’re going to do like a towel show, like they’re perfect because they just,

Tim:
I

Dio:
you just click them and they fall off and they sit. on my body, I don’t know, they’re like cut perfectly, they look like a glove. And they’re one of my favorites at the moment that I have. I’ve actually had a few photos online wearing all of these brands and underwear, so I’m sure if anybody wants to check them out, you can see them. But yeah, the Darkroom brand, that’s one of my new favorites as well, and also because of friends of friends, but their style and the quality of their products are insane, it’s so good.

Tim:
Nice, those are three very different brands, which I

Dio:
Yeah.

Tim:
like that. That’s good. Yeah, because Sai explained to us about the underwear over there and how it’s what they like, what they don’t like, what they find sexy. So it’s way different from here of what is considered sexy and then told us about the towel shows and opened my eyes to all things go over there. And it was just like,

Dio:
Hehehe

Tim:
oh my god. gotta go, this is amazing.

Dio:
Hehehe

Tim:
And so it’s really cool to hear how the underwear is being mixed in, how, you know, how is go-go dancing different in Korea than Japan?

Dio:
Well, that’s the thing. So, go-go dancing is fairly new to Korea in the sense that in our nightlife scene, go-go dancing has only started really kicking off in this last year. And they don’t do it as often as they do in Japan. It’s easy, obviously, online almost every single week there’s some kind of show, something happening for go-goes in Japan, and there’s a roster of like 20 guys that are almost everywhere

Tim:
Mm-hmm.

Dio:
all the time. In Korea, it’s not really like that at all. We don’t really have that many. There’s, I would say like we have some go-gos, but a lot of them would don’t do shows either in Korea or will do shows in other places. Like there’s a few guys that will go and they’ve done songkran in Thailand, or they would do some shows in Japan. Um, but they never really perform in Korea. And I guess that’s down to like social conservatism. Like it’s just.

Tim:
Mm-hmm.

Dio:
In Korea, it’s a lot more conservative than Japan, especially in the gay scene. Nobody really wants to put themselves out there in that way. Even sometimes when we’re doing promos, they’ll cover our face in the promos just to respect your privacy sort of thing. For me, I don’t care because I’m lucky to be openly gay and not care about that, or even my family will know about that. My family even follow me on social media, which is weird but funny.

Tim:
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Dio:
and they see what I’m doing, they know what I do, so they’re like, work diva. So I’m just like, whatever. I don’t care, but I know other Koreans that it’s very serious for them, so respecting their privacy, I get it, but also then it’s kind of like, I don’t really understand the sense of like, you’re going to go on stage and dance and they’re all going to see you, but you don’t want the picture being put online, so it’s kind of like… contradictory a little bit but I understand the same sense of like it is all about respect to privacy and what you’re comfortable with and I get that. But also a lot of the guys here they’re not really trying to make careers out of go-go dancing. Some of them are but most of them aren’t but most of them just they were asked and they will do it for a bit of fun and yeah it’s just it’s not really that serious for them. But as I say like there’s a lot of guys that will go to Japan for shows and actually myself included I’m planning on doing a show in Japan. Tokyo very soon, which is a big deal for me because branching out to go international. So very excited

Tim:
Oh.

Dio:
for that. But again, as I say, because of a lot of shows in Korea, like Go! Dancing isn’t really that big. And a lot of the time they’ll get go-gos from Japan to Korea to do shows. And yes, I understand that because a lot of time in Korea too, they are seen a lot more like as celebrities. In Japan, it’s less serious. They’re like, oh, that’s such an outay. But like, I didn’t realize that. I was like, oh my god, fangirl. And like when I was there, and they were just like, yeah, that’s just whatever. Like, they don’t really care. And I was like, oh, right. OK. But then when they come to Korea, they get all that fangirls and oh my god. So they get a lot of attention. So if like Japanese go-go boys come to Korea, like I’m totally like, yeah, come here because they will eat you up. They will love you. But in the same sense, it’s like, why don’t we have that? Like, we only have. We’ll do a show maybe once a month, which is dependent, it’s not always certain. But I’ve done all the big clubs in Seoul, which has been great. I’ve been very honored and privileged to do all that, especially being white in this environment. I mean, it’s not very, not to say that it’s racist or anything, but it’s not very welcoming to others. Every go-go dancer in Japan and Korea are Asians of some sort. But majority of them,

Tim:
Mm-hmm.

Dio:
especially in Japan, I would say like 95% are Japanese and then in Korea there’s like 99% of them are Korean and then me. Hello! So just

Tim:
Hahaha.

Dio:
me. But again, I think it is more like a conservative idea in Korea that that’s why it’s harder to get gogos. And also a lot of times gogos are saying like they don’t really, they don’t care. They’re not really planning on making this a part of their career or any form of like, not that it’s a career, but you know what I mean, it’s not a part of their gigs. They’re

Tim:
Mm-hmm.

Dio:
not really serious about it. But there are a few and it is getting better and it’s getting bigger, especially at the moment. I’ve noticed that there’s a few guys now that have been, that are being recruited for some shows. So we love to see that. So I’m like, yes, I love to, more representation, please, come on. Like we need to show up. Because

Tim:
Mm-hmm.

Dio:
if we’re going to start doing go-go dance and we can’t look like, no, we have to try and compete with Japan here, so come on, let’s get it, let’s get some team

Tim:
Yeah.

Dio:
together or get some scene, you know? But it is getting better and luckily there’s a lot of clubs like Gym Club in Seoul and King Club. King Club is mostly K-pop but they sometimes do go-go shows. Gym Club is a

Tim:
Mm-hmm.

Dio:
circuit club which is where all the big go-gos go and I’ve done there a few times, like I’ve done there a couple times and it’s really good. I love it there. It’s just perfect for what we’re talking about. Eagle Soul has started doing go-go shows as well. Actually, I was so honored to get to do that show last time. That was actually the first time I met Sai.

Tim:
So nice.

Dio:
Eagle Soul has been my go-to. Every time I go out, it’s the place I go. I was just so honored to be able to actually go there as well because they didn’t really ever do go-go shows until recently. As I say, the go-go scene is expanding and there is more happening, so I’m very honored and glad to be a part of it. I just hope I can keep pushing for the Koreans as well. Although I’m Irish, I’m still representing Seoul. Even when I

Tim:
Yes.

Dio:
go to Tokyo and people are asking, oh, the book go-go shows, I’m like, yeah, I’m Irish, but I’ve never done a show in Ireland, so I’m representing Seoul. They’re like, the Korean go-go, but you’re Irish? I’m like, yes.

Tim:
Yes.

Dio:
So it doesn’t really make sense, but the same thing is I’m Team Korea, so…

Tim:
Nice. So how did you get Gogo dancing to begin with?

Dio:
Well, there was actually it was an Eagle Soul about two years ago. And about a year ago, it was just it was just at the very break. Actually, two years ago, it was in Korea because Korea hadn’t really had much bother with COVID at the time. And they were just like they were locking down and doing all that. But they were still things happening. And there was like some kind of party at Eagle Soul. And there was a guy they were doing like some kind of go-go show. But it wasn’t really a show. It wasn’t like a go-go show as such. It was like. a performance, like a BDSM kind of performance thing. And

Tim:
Okay.

Dio:
I remember, as I say, I’m always an eagle. And of course, I was like super drunk and was like just vibing because they were playing like a remix for like Megan Thee Stallion. And I was obviously like losing my mind. So I was just dancing and like just having fun with my friends. And like, one of the organizers of that party seen me there, was like, oh, like, no, you have a lot of energy. And you’re down to party, whatever. and they had kept an eye on me. And then I started getting in shape and started doing modeling and started doing things like that. And then they were like, hey, do you want to do a go-go show with us? It was for Gay Pride last year. There was an event at Gym Club. I can’t remember the name of it. And basically they had hired some go-gos and they needed one more. And they asked me and I was like, oh. I’ve never done this, but like, are you sure it’s okay? Because I’m a foreigner and all this.” And they were like, yeah, of course, no worries. So like, I was like, right, sure, let’s do it. So, um, yeah, they, that was my first show in gym club. And I had the best, I mean, it was out of all the places to do a show, gym club is like the biggest. And I was like, oh my God, throwing the deep end here. So

Tim:
Hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe

Dio:
I did gym club and king club on the same night and I remember just being like, oh my God, what is my life? Like, this is crazy. And like, I had so much fun. Like, I just really, really loved it. And I always said when I was younger, I like, because like, as I said before, like I used to be really overweight. And like, when I was younger, like I remember saying like, if I had the body, I’d be such a good cooker dancer. I used to always say this when I was drunk, by the way. Ha ha ha. Disclaimer,

Tim:
Yeah. Hahaha.

Dio:
I was a little less drunk and feeling myself. I’ve been a good Google dancer and I’m just very proud of myself now that I’ve been able to do this now, like from thinking like I could never have the opportunity to do it and now they actually get the opportunity to do it. It’s just very, it’s just very nice. I’m very proud of myself.

Tim:
Nice, now you from all the videos and pictures I’ve seen on your Instagram it looks like you’re killing

Dio:
Thank

Tim:
it

Dio:
you very much.

Tim:
and having fun with doing it which is the most important

Dio:
Mm-hmm.

Tim:
which is amazing because talking with you over Instagram has been really fun the last week we said we’ve been chatting so I was

Dio:
Aw,

Tim:
like

Dio:
thank you very much.

Tim:
we definitely got to

Dio:
You

Tim:
get him

Dio:
too,

Tim:
on

Dio:
it’s

Tim:
you

Dio:
been great.

Tim:
So you have the energy and you have everything and I’m trying to bring more international people onto the podcast and like I said when I found out you’re Irish and in Korea I was like jackpot

Dio:
Hahaha

Tim:
we hit

Dio:
I’m

Tim:
it

Dio:
gonna go.

Tim:
so it’s good to bring on other people and bring on other points of view and everything and talk about different things and culture and We have a mix of gay straight bi, so it’s just, it’s really fun to hear people’s stories and hear how underwear fits in there with it, and it’s not just something you wear, but something that’s fun, and you wear shows, and you have favorite brands, so that’s amazing.

Dio:
Yeah, because a lot of the time it is about the underwear that you’re wearing because we’re just dancers, we’re just whatever. We’re basically walking billboards for a lot of brands. So I love representing brands that I love and doing the things that I like to do. So it’s always good. It’s a full circle. You’re helping them, but they’re helping you. So it’s great. I love it.

Tim:
It’s a great way to sell underwear, especially when you’re there. It’s like, hello,

Dio:
Uh-huh.

Tim:
get some go-go boys and sell some underwear.

Dio:
Exactly.

Tim:
We need go-go culture here like that. We need… It’s not the same here, but you know.

Dio:
Really? I thought they had a big scene there.

Tim:
We have, we have Goga Boys, but it’s not like the way Psy has it and go out night to night and here’s people or you follow. There’s like a couple of people you’d follow, but no one like you would think, oh, someone’s dancing, let’s go. And it’s

Dio:
Yeah.

Tim:
like, because Japan, it’s like, oh, Psy’s dancing or one of the other guys is dancing. So you want to go out. And there it’s like, OK, they can dance. Here’s some dancers. But it’s not like.

Dio:
Yeah.

Tim:
Household names so I’m like we need some like household names and

Dio:
With

Tim:
stuff

Dio:
us, it’s similar to Japan. They would be like, oh my god, such and such a beautiful show, there, let’s go. Almost Google Boys are held to the same standard as Drag Queens, which is weird. In America,

Tim:
Mm-hmm.

Dio:
obviously Drag Queens are the main thing and then the Google Boys are the backup, just whatever. But

Tim:
Yes.

Dio:
here, we’re on the same level. Sometimes actually, they will try and book us for gigs with Drag Queens a lot of the time.

Tim:
Mm-hmm.

Dio:
We are on the same stage, same level kind of idea here.

Tim:
Yeah, because Sai explained it that drag is crazy here, big, and he goes, well, go-go’s here and drag is not

Dio:
Exactly.

Tim:
so big. So it’s like, so I’m like, we

Dio:
I

Tim:
need

Dio:
agree,

Tim:
go-go’s.

Dio:
Korea

Tim:
We need some

Dio:
is

Tim:
go-go’s.

Dio:
the same, the Gugud culture is a lot bigger than the Drag culture. But it’s getting bigger.

Tim:
I was like, I’m like, we can keep her drag queens, but we just need some go-go boys too. I’m just saying.

Dio:
Yeah, exactly. Room for everybody.

Tim:
There’s room for both.

Dio:
Okay.

Tim:
There’s room for both. And they can work together every so often.

Dio:
Exactly.

Tim:
So perfect. Perfect match.

Dio:
I

Tim:
Perfect

Dio:
agree.

Tim:
match.

Dio:
I totally agree. I support this.

Tim:
Yay. So that’ll wrap up our podcast. It was amazing having you on. It was a lot of

Dio:
Thank

Tim:
fun.

Dio:
you very much for having me.

Tim:
I know

Dio:
I’ve been honoured.

Tim:
it’s pleasure and our listeners will enjoy it, I’m sure. And just, we said this beforehand, but just in case you could not understand his accent, because I know if you’re down, if you’re down south near me and you have a country accent and you’re used to it, you may not be able to. We do have transcripts now, so just go to the blog and there will be a transcript below the podcast. So you can read anything you need to.

Dio:
I-

Tim:
But I understood perfectly, so

Dio:
Alright

Tim:
hopefully you boys should

Dio:
I apologize

Tim:
too.

Dio:
if you don’t, but it is what it is. Hahaha.

Tim:
Different people get different, you

Dio:
That’s it.

Tim:
know, but you know, just so you know starting last show We now have transcripts below every podcast Because our new stuff breaks it out by person and it’s not a just big mesh together. So Yay,

Dio:
Yeah,

Tim:
we’re very happy for that.

Dio:
good.

Tim:
So Thank you’re welcome people. So Tell everyone where they can find you on social media where they can follow

Dio:
Well,

Tim:
you

Dio:
I’m on Instagram at underscore Dio dot X underscore and I’m also on Twitter at ginger underscore muscle underscore. And so yeah, you can find me on Instagram and Twitter.

Tim:
Awesome. Go follow him if you don’t. We’ll have his links for his social media in the show notes, just in case. And thank you again for coming

Dio:
Thank you so

Tim:
on.

Dio:
much for having me. It’s been great fun. Thank you.

Tim:
Definitely have a good week everyone,

Dio:
Bye!

Tim:
bye!

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In the podcast episode, Tim, Wayne, and the duo Ryan and Will discuss various issues related to underwear for “beefy boys.” Tim introduces the show and announces the return of group shows based on popular demand. They also talk about the challenges of finding the right size and fit in underwear, with different brands having inconsistent sizing and cuts. They mention issues such as tightness on the legs, discomfort in the crotch area, lack of room in the butt, and waistbands that are either too tight or stretch out easily. The conversation touches on swimwear sizing and the limited options for larger sizes, especially in certain brands. They also express frustration with companies that seem to exclude certain sizes or body types from their product range. Wayne specifically mentions a recent disappointing purchase of underwear that did not fit properly. Overall, the discussion revolves around the difficulties beefy guys face in finding comfortable and well-fitting underwear.

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Transcript (note some things aren’t accurate)

TIM:
Hey, and we are live. We are live now. Yay. Okay, we’re recording. I can’t hear you breathe, Wayne though. I’m not sure where your microphone is.

Wayne:
supposed to be a noise cancellation so home

TIM:
I don’t know what it is. I have noise reduction for everybody and echo cancellation for everybody. Just making sure. That sounds better. I’m not sure what it’s doing, it’s crazy. But we’ll kick it off and go now. I’ll introduce everyone and we’ll have a fun show. In three, two, one. Hey everyone, welcome to another edition of the Brief Talk Podcast. It’s been a minute, but we’re back with you after the holiday here in the US and a bunch of crazy stuff going on with me. We have a great show today that’s all about beefy boys because it’s a full beefy boy show minus Stevie who’s in Gay Days in Disney World. So have fun Stevie. So we have our favorite duo Ryan and Will. Welcome boys.

Steaks_N_Cakes:
Hello. Hi. It’s been a minute since we’ve been

TIM:
Good

Steaks_N_Cakes:
on.

TIM:
to have… I know, it’s been crazy and we’re fixing that because I have an announcement I have to announce after we introduce everyone. So yay! And then we have someone you’ve heard on the show. A couple weeks ago we have Wayne back with us!

Wayne:
Hey, thanks for having me on again.

TIM:
Glad to have you back on. I really enjoyed having him with his brief tale and he was friends with Will and Ryan and I figured this would be a great show to do with all of us But in the meantime, I have my announcement. I do have a uh new Drum roll in here, but i’m not gonna play it because it’s probably too damn loud because I have a soundboard with our new uh riverside Software that’s helping us record podcast. Yay! Thanks Patreon members. But that’s not our announcement. After many people have come to me, they said they missed the group shows. So we’re going to bring them back once a quarter. So the next one we’re going to record the end of June, which will be out July, the first week in July, I think. So look forward then, every fourth of July weekend, we’re going to have our group shows. I’ve had many people say they missed them, they want them back, and other people in our survey did not want to hear them, but you know, we try to give the people what they want. And speaking of, you know, I’m a giver, what can I say? I like to give. So we will have them, Will and Ryan will be on it, and some of your usual suspects will be on it, and some other new people that you haven’t heard on a group show before, so yay! But a quick update on our Patreon, since we have our new software. We’re up to 15. We want 20. So we’re five away. So join, join, join and help us out. We’ve had quite a few people join in the last couple months and it’s actually a community in there. And I wish you could get all our staff. I call them staff, but all our guys on Patreon too. But it only allows for one account, which sucks. So you can’t interact with everybody on the show because there’s too many of them and they won’t give me free accounts. Boo.

Steaks_N_Cakes:
That’s lame.

TIM:
But you can interact with them on whatever social media though. So you’re not limited. You can reach out and you can’t touch them unless they let you. And get in touch with them. And several of our boys will let you touch them. So yay! So yay! So today we’re talking all things beefy boys in underwear since we’re all considered beefy boys. Underwear has its own issues as I can attest and all three of these boys can attest being a beefy boy. We have certain issues. So first I wanna say. Uh, Blaine was posting pictures in a swim thong this week on Twitter, who looked amazing. I just saw that.

Wayne:
Thank you.

TIM:
And you said you didn’t like pools. And look at you, you’re posting a swim thought.

Wayne:
I do not get in the water that often. I will get into a pool, but it cannot be too deep.

TIM:
Oh, I don’t mind deep poles. A friend of mine has a 12 foot pole. It’s an older one and I love it because they can’t touch the bottom. Yay.

Wayne:
Because I’m short, I don’t have that issue.

TIM:
Oh, I do. Everyone’s like, we have a deep end. I’m like, it’s like four feet. I was like, how do you expect me to get wet in four feet?

Wayne:
That’s perfect for me.

TIM:
Well, you can have your four foot pulse. I want the 12 foot. So I’m like, ah. But yes. So let’s talk beefy and underwear. So let’s start off with some of the issues that we have. And I know probably one of them you’ll bring up that I don’t have, which is having a bigger butt, which I don’t have. I was not blessed with that. So I cannot. attest to that, but I know it’s an issue for many. So we’ll start with Will and Ryan. What are your biggest gripes about underwear? Being a beefy guy.

Steaks_N_Cakes:
I think for us, the sizing and all the different lines are all completely different. So when

TIM:
Yes.

Steaks_N_Cakes:
we try something new, we have a tendency to have to like reach out to somebody that we’ve seen wear them. Because I don’t want to have to buy something, try it on and I mean, with underwear, it’s kind of gross to have to return it. Most places I don’t think you’re even allowed to.

TIM:
Not really.

Steaks_N_Cakes:
You can on Amazon. Oh yeah, you can on Amazon though. That’s actually kind of gross. But sometimes

TIM:
Well.

Steaks_N_Cakes:
like the cut on the legs are really small. So

TIM:
Mm-hmm.

Steaks_N_Cakes:
it might fit our waist, but then it’s really tight on the legs. Or there’s the opposite where it might be loose on the legs or the opening the legs and then it’s tighter on the waist. So it’s kind of, it’s hard to sometimes find the even opening on the top and on the bottom. crotch.

TIM:
See, that’s a big issue boys have with butt issues, which I don’t have, unfortunately. I wish I did. I wanted butt issues, but, you know, there’s a sound clip for you. But that happens with boys with butts that, you know, it may fit your butt, but it’s gonna squeeze the front like you got the boys in a vice. Which is not comfortable at all.

Steaks_N_Cakes:
No.

TIM:
So, yeah.

Steaks_N_Cakes:
Yeah, there have been times before where I’ve put on a pair of underwear or even a speedo or something and I might wear for about an hour and then I was like, okay, I gotta take this off. It’s just not comfortable. It might look cute, but it just doesn’t work.

TIM:
Yeah, I’m familiar with that, I’ve done that. And what about you Wayne? What is your biggest complaint about underwear?

Wayne:
Oh, where to begin?

TIM:
We got plenty of time.

Wayne:
For me, it’s just a lot like there’s not enough room in the butt usually so it ends up giving me a wedging to be honest Or it will ride up and then same problem then if it Has enough room in the back. There’s not enough room in the front and you are in a vice Uh, the other issues for me is it’s just the cut between the legs. I have very wide thighs And so then my thighs rub.

TIM:
Yeah, I remember that from our previous show, you mentioning that and I mentioned it on one of the other shows that I did just recently. Yes. My biggest issue sometimes is the waistband itself. It kind of is either too tight or it gets stretched out, which drives me crazy. And you just wanna punch someone in the throat because actually you have this really cute pair of underwear, a really great one that you spent. $20, $30 on and the waistband looks like you know you played tug of war with it and it’s all messed up and you’re like, boo! I was like, this is supposed to be good underwear. But whatever.

Wayne:
or it squeezes your bladder.

TIM:
Yeah, it can do that, which is not good in any imagination. I don’t think anybody would be into that, but you never know. Never underestimate the power of people.

Steaks_N_Cakes:
Sometimes if the waistband is either too tight or too high, it pushes up the muffin top and then it’s just not cute.

TIM:
That’s true

Wayne:
I can

TIM:
too.

Wayne:
attest to that.

TIM:
That is. That’s very true because I have that with some because I’m wearing the Ozzy bomb. What is this? It’s an older one where it’s like sort of a tango brief but it has a wide waistband and it’s higher on the hips. I love the pair but sometimes it just does, you’re just like, oh no, you’re not doing me any favors today.

Steaks_N_Cakes:
I haven’t bought Ossie Bums for a long time that brings back memories

TIM:
Well, they, going back to your sizing issue, they’re extra large used to fit me, but now they’ve gone to 2XL and it’s like, they don’t make half the things in 2XL now that I want. And I’m like, well, that’s my size, but it’s not made in that, which annoys me and annoys me with other brands who don’t go above like 36. Which is kinda crazy to me, especially in the US.

Steaks_N_Cakes:
Yeah.

TIM:
Cause you’re missing like, tall boys like me, who I’ll never be a 32 waist. If I do, I’ll look emaciated. Like I can’t eat or something, but I’m a good 36, 38 when I’m in decent shape and it’s like, okay. I can’t wear your underwear because it’s not big enough.

Steaks_N_Cakes:
Yeah, agreed. We have the same issue.

TIM:
And swimwear, I’ve noticed lately a lot of them are only going up to 36. Cause I looked at stuff, uh, John that’s been on our podcasts. Got the cutest pair of swimwear and I’m like, Oh my God, I want one. And I go look and I’m like, Oh, it’s not be be boy friendly. Boom.

Wayne:
And that just brings to two other issues where maybe it’s that they don’t make enough money off that particular cut or the company doesn’t want that size worn on customers.

TIM:
Yeah, it’s with certain brands, they don’t want the customers wearing it. Um, certain brands I know, but for other brands, I don’t understand why they do it because, you know, some of their customers would definitely buy their underwear if it were as larger than 36. That’s just my opinion. but it doesn’t make sense to me for that. Especially if you do fetish wear and stuff like that, if you don’t go above 36, it’s like, come on now. The boys who like this are definitely bigger size, so.

Steaks_N_Cakes:
It’s also just irritating the fact that there are some companies out there that don’t want certain size people to wear their products. Like that just makes me angry.

TIM:
Yeah, there are. They’ll never admit it. They’re out there. If they’re in the US. But I’ve run across several brands who have no interest in going larger than 36. And there’s some that don’t even go over 34. I’ve seen that before.

Steaks_N_Cakes:
Lord, that would barely get across my ankles.

TIM:
Because if you’re like in an Asian country or something, it’s okay. Or it’s generally the sizing is skewed to their culture, their base. And that’s the sizes they sell. That’s where their base. So I get that like in Japan, they have a lot of like 29s, 28s, up to 34s. I get that because you know, you’re you’re not really reaching to sell outside of Japan, but brands in the US should actually look for at least up to 3840, that’s all I’m saying.

Steaks_N_Cakes:
Yeah, I would agree with that.

TIM:
And then one of the more recent brands that came out with larger sizes was Andrew Christian, which I was surprised by, because I was like, what? So I was surprised they came out with the larger brand. I think they go up to 40, 42 now. I don’t remember, I looked it up, but I forgot.

Wayne:
I will say that brand

TIM:
And I

Wayne:
is

TIM:
know

Wayne:
the

TIM:
there’s.

Wayne:
only brand that covers my ass.

TIM:
Well, they have so many different things and that was a big controversy when it happened last last month. Yeah, we’re in June now so guys were some were going on about Andrew Christian and his Only wanting twinks in it and this and the other but I’m like, you know He’s not he’s not stupid for going for that market because there are a ton of gay boys, but you know and straight boys wearing it now. But that’s just my opinion. So what other issues do you think beefy boys have in underwear? Wayne, you said you had a bunch of them. So what are some other issues you have?

Wayne:
It goes back to the waistband or like what Will and Ryan were saying that you don’t know About ordering it and when you do order it, it doesn’t fit properly. There’s some companies that I just don’t order from anymore Because of those reasons you order it it comes in it’s cut differently. I just ordered a nasty pig Speedo and underwear The speedo works fine the underwear, it looks like a canopy stretched across my ass. It’s just the material’s different. You don’t know what it’s going to look like when you get it in. And then the material going back, it looks like a canopy. You don’t know how it’s going to fit over your ass. So that’s one of the big issues is that I don’t know what it’s going to look like until I get it on.

Steaks_N_Cakes:
So, thank you.

Wayne:
Just because of the volume, the mass, and the size.

TIM:
Yeah, that is… Well, the problem with those is whatever they’re using for their swimwear versus their underwear, their patterns are totally different. And I know certain brands do different ones for different, but other ones use the same. I think Andain uses the same patterns for both because he really doesn’t have an issue with sizing from one thing to another, at least in my experience. I’ve had other people tell me recently otherwise, but I haven’t had any issues with them in the past several years. So I think we need to be consistent. And then… I lost my train of thought. Okay. I was trying to go somewhere and now I derailed. Uh oh. So what else? So swimwear, do you have the same issue with swimwear as you do with underwear? Because I know Wheel and Run, you guys wear a lot of Speedos, swim briefs. Have you experienced that with swimwear or has it been more underwear?

Steaks_N_Cakes:
I would say we probably have more issues with the underwear only because with a Speedo it’s typically more of like a stretchy type material so it doesn’t really we don’t have a much issues. I got butt cleavage in… Well yeah, you still get butt cleavage, yeah. I feel like tuck it in. It depends on how you like… Salt it in.

TIM:
Well, remember, in Japan, they like that, so…

Steaks_N_Cakes:
Yeah, I don’t like I don’t I don’t want to see it like I want it all in in the in the suit

TIM:
Well, if you go to Japan, just bring those seats and you’ll be super popular.

Steaks_N_Cakes:
But I guess the problem we have with the bathing suits is if there’s like an actual like Pattern or design on the back It looks cool when it’s not on but then when we put it on and it stretches You see the white kind of bleed through so that it kind of it

TIM:
Oh

Steaks_N_Cakes:
feed they did defeat the purpose of having it

TIM:
The printing,

Steaks_N_Cakes:
Yeah

TIM:
yes, yes, yes. There is a new process they have to do that that doesn’t show the white. I’m not sure how widespread it is, but it takes a little effort to get that, but yeah, I didn’t think

Steaks_N_Cakes:
We

TIM:
of that.

Steaks_N_Cakes:
get that

TIM:
That’s a

Steaks_N_Cakes:
sometimes

TIM:
good one.

Steaks_N_Cakes:
on certain underwear brands. Depending on how intricate the design is on the underwear. Like I think the one that does it the most is Skull and Bones. I love all of their stuff,

TIM:
Okay.

Steaks_N_Cakes:
it’s gorgeous, but when it stretches, the whole color just fades. It’s not as bright

TIM:
Bates.

Steaks_N_Cakes:
as it was before. Cause now you’re seeing the white.

TIM:
Yeah, yeah,

Steaks_N_Cakes:
So

TIM:
yeah.

Steaks_N_Cakes:
I don’t know if there’s a way to like, bleed in the color into the actual material. I have no idea. I don’t make clothes, so I’m not sure how that works.

TIM:
I was, it was explained to me, somebody does it where it’s, even if you stretch it, it won’t turn white. And I don’t remember who it was. It was in Vegas one year and they all bleed together at this point. But yeah, you can, you can do that, but I think it’s more expensive. Like everything else

Steaks_N_Cakes:
I

TIM:
in

Steaks_N_Cakes:
mean,

TIM:
the world.

Steaks_N_Cakes:
if it’s going to be more expensive and I know it’s going to fit and it’s not going to look a certain way, then I’m willing to spend a little bit more.

TIM:
Yeah.

Steaks_N_Cakes:
But I don’t know if everybody else

TIM:
Hi.

Steaks_N_Cakes:
is like that though. So I understand, you know, if there’s not a market for it, they’re not gonna do it.

TIM:
True, true, true. What about you Wayne? Do you have issues with swimwear as well or is it just underwear?

Wayne:
I’ve only had one or two issues with swimwear. One was that it wasn’t cut properly in the front to fit anything. And then the other one actually had a buckle on the side and the company advertised it as a large. I ended up giving it away to someone because even if I lost weight, I would never fit into that large. And it was a US size large. So I don’t know if it was intentional to be made that way or a mistake, but it just had the side buckle on it and that’s only two issues that I’ve had with swimwear.

TIM:
Okay, so it’s more underwear than swimwear. That’s good to know. And if your beefy boys out there have similar issues, drop us a line. Let us know. We’ll report back. So who are your favorite brands? Who are the brands you know doing it great for beefy boys, for everyone? You can mention swimwear and underwear or just underwear. It doesn’t really matter. What about you, Wayne? Who are your favorites that you go to all the

Wayne:
So

TIM:
time?

Wayne:
for swimwear, it would be Nasty Pig and then Andrew Christian. It just goes

TIM:
OK.

Wayne:
around my bubble butt just fine and everything fits right. My current favorite would be the menswear thong that I have. I get a lot of compliments on that one. It’s probably because I have a big bubble butt that came out of it. And then for underwear, I’d have to say Nasty Pig probably has a 95% success rate with me. When it comes to their products,

TIM:
Okay.

Wayne:
I’ve learned which product, which cut, what style will fit me, so I’m not making a mistake when I purchase it.

TIM:
What about you boys? What do you guys love?

Steaks_N_Cakes:
For bathing suits, I believe the ones that we’re wearing the most right now are MCE, which I think they’re based in Texas.

TIM:
Mm-hmm.

Steaks_N_Cakes:
And I believe that they’re made for bigger guys, and so they go up really

TIM:
Yes.

Steaks_N_Cakes:
larger sizes. And I like their sizing because they make, when I order a size from them, I feel like I’m smaller because they have everything slightly higher. So even just

TIM:
Mm-hmm.

Steaks_N_Cakes:
like a mental thing, it’s like, ooh, I feel tiny.

TIM:
You’re like, I’m a large in this, not an extra

Steaks_N_Cakes:
So

TIM:
large.

Steaks_N_Cakes:
their stuff is really comfortable. And then Thicc, I believe, is the other one that we do. Their

TIM:
Mm-hmm.

Steaks_N_Cakes:
speedos are really, really comfortable. And they always repost our shit when we, oh, pardon, can I please say? They always repost our stuff. So, yeah, I think that’s it for this video. If you enjoyed it, please like, subscribe, and leave a comment below. And if you have any questions, please leave a comment below.

TIM:
Yes, you can you can you can say those words on the podcast we have the explicit warning

Steaks_N_Cakes:
Okay, I don’t. I was just I was making sure but yeah, the thick is nice because they always repost our stuff when we tag them and I’m like, oh, that’s so nice.

TIM:
They are good about that. They’re their customer, I think, is the beefy boy. Also, MC definitely goes after the beefy boy. I have some of their stuff as well and love it. My favorites lately have been cock socks, which I always love because I like the pouch. It’s and they fit really well and hold up. I think their largest are. Perfect, our extra larges are perfect. And try to think of a look and swimwear. I haven’t been swimming because I’m not near an ocean or a pool lately. So I haven’t really gone anywhere. Although I did get the cute end to end flamingo swim brief this year. So I’m very happy about that one. I just need somewhere to wear it.

Wayne:
I love flamingos.

TIM:
Yay. Me too, that’s why I got it, because I told Andrew that I was upset I missed the one last year, and I was like, I’m so bummed, and he goes, well, we have something coming up for you, Memorial Day weekend. And well, Saturday morning that weekend, I just got up bright and early, and at 8 a.m., I went and bought it, and that’s before the email came out. So I was like, ta-da! So flamingos are my happy animal. So I have there and I’m trying to think who else, so where do I have? I don’t remember. I definitely need to try thick because that one’s been on my list for a while. I do like

Steaks_N_Cakes:
Their

TIM:
it.

Steaks_N_Cakes:
designs are fun.

TIM:
Yeah, I like what they do. Do you guys, we know Wayne wears swim thongs since he posted his picture in it. Do you guys wear thongs as well on the beach or is it just the reefs?

Steaks_N_Cakes:
We have, I think, one from MCE, but we’ve never actually gone to a beach and actually worn a swim trunks. So that would be something that we’re probably gonna have to start doing this year. But I’ve always seen them and they look cool. It’s just a swim trunks doesn’t exactly fit the same way as like a regular underwear song. We haven’t

TIM:
Mm-hmm.

Steaks_N_Cakes:
gotten any gay pool parties or gay beach in a long time. Well, that too. No, we totally haven’t.

TIM:
What? You’re in… you’re having pride there this weekend somewhere.

Steaks_N_Cakes:
Yeah, we’re going next. Yeah, that’s this weekend is WeHo Pride. And then next weekend is LA Pride. They just they think they separated it last year. But LA Pride next weekend, Mariah Carey’s headlining. So we are so excited

TIM:
Ohhhh…

Steaks_N_Cakes:
that we’re going to see her.

TIM:
See, our pride is not until October. Because stupid people in the city of Atlanta. But yeah, so ours is until like the first weekend in October. So we won’t have any fun, Skimpy, here, because it’ll be kind of… not warm. So it’s like, boo, we need to move it back to June.

Steaks_N_Cakes:
Oh yeah, it’s better to be in the warm time.

TIM:
But it was always, you know, the last weekend in June when Pride’s supposed to be. And then we had our drought and they’re like, well, you can only have one big event in the park at a time, a quarter, and that’s going to be the road race. So you got to move yours to October.

Steaks_N_Cakes:
That’s homophobic. Ugh.

TIM:
Well, then they have these giant concerts with a bazillion, like 200,000 people in the in the park that ruined the grass. And I’m like, Wait, we have less people for pride and you have this thing to raise money for the park and you destroy it and then you probably have to use half the money to replace it? It’s like, whatever.

Steaks_N_Cakes:
Yeah, that’s down tomaphobic to me

TIM:
I would say so too, but I’m not in the city of Atlanta proper so I don’t get a say. But I’m not really upset over that, but you know. Yeah. So do you guys do anything, you guys like jocks? What are your favorite jocks for beefy boys? Because you’re posting in the gym a lot and everywhere basically because you boys are I think you’re gonna become the next Stevie posting pictures because he’s posting them everywhere, in everything, jocks, thongs, you name it. He’s there, he’s proud, he’s an adorable boy. And that’s why I love Stevie. But what are some of your favorite jocks?

Steaks_N_Cakes:
I would say for us, what do we have in the drawer right now that we wear? Meat is one, two exists and thick. Are the ones that we wear probably on a regular basis.

TIM:
See, 2xist is one of those brands that you forget about every so often because you’re used to them because they’ve been around for forever

Steaks_N_Cakes:
Yeah.

TIM:
and you look at them like now and I’m like, ooh, that’s cute, look at that, ooh, that’s cute too, look at there. So I need to look more into

Steaks_N_Cakes:
Well, the

TIM:
them.

Steaks_N_Cakes:
reason we like them is their fit has never really changed. And

TIM:
Mm-hmm.

Steaks_N_Cakes:
so even buying it now, it still feels the same like when I was in high school. Like I’m just maybe a little thicker, actually probably a lot thicker now than I was then. Um, but

TIM:
Me

Steaks_N_Cakes:
they,

TIM:
too.

Steaks_N_Cakes:
I mean, they, they still feel comfortable. Like they don’t dig into your skin. The waist is a perfect size. Um, I mean, they’ve been coming out with. Pride lines every year and then they started selling to exist pride at Macy’s which is really cool We’ve seen it there

TIM:
I have to… I don’t… I don’t go to the mall so I can’t tell you if we sell it here. Because they used to sell all the good stuff at Linux where all the gay boys used to go and everyone else was kind of like left out but I don’t know. So I need to check that out. And what about you Wayne? What are your favorite jocks? Because I know you wear jocks because one of my favorite pictures of you, you have a jock on.

Wayne:
So

TIM:
What are yours?

Wayne:
I don’t actually wear that many jocks to the gym. I think jocks are used for other things, if you know what I mean.

TIM:
You like

Wayne:
I

TIM:
the

Wayne:
do.

TIM:
extracurricular

Wayne:
So

TIM:
activities.

Wayne:
I.

Steaks_N_Cakes:
Let’s still work it out.

TIM:
That’s cardio.

Wayne:
But I do not wear them to the gym. But my favorites I will have to say, it depends on the nasty pig cut. It really depends on it. Then I like their skin. I think those two. I have two jocks from them. It’s the old style

TIM:
Mm-hmm.

Wayne:
and those are my favorite. I do think other companies make that same old style and they just slap a label on it. I’m gonna be honest. I’m not calling anyone out but they all look very similar. So go for them. But those are probably my all-time favorite. is going to be that old style jockstrap and then go ahead

TIM:
you like the thick

Wayne:
For

TIM:
waistband

Wayne:
extracurricular

TIM:
traditional job.

Wayne:
activities, yes. but for

TIM:
Good, good.

Wayne:
lifting right now I use my meat jock straps because as much as I like the meat materials those aren’t my favorite jock straps they’re just not as comfortable as I thought they would be.

TIM:
You know, working out and extracurricular activities are two totally different things, so I could see that.

Steaks_N_Cakes:
Yeah,

TIM:
Yeah.

Steaks_N_Cakes:
meat used to be not uncomfortable, but once we lost a little bit of weight, they got a little bit better. So I guess that kind of defeats the purpose of being beefy if they don’t fit.

TIM:
bright. You know, I like, I like a mix of the traditional and the regular, and I’ve never been let down by bike. So I kind of like those for the old school traditional. And then, uh, Coxox makes a really good jock. Oh my God. It’s my top, top 10 or top five. And then ergo wears the other one. I like a good pouch. What can I say? That’s my downfall. I will buy anything with a good pouch.

Wayne:
That’s the most important part to Jock.

TIM:
Yeah, that’s pretty much the only part to a dog to hold it in. If you fall out, you got an issue with your dog. Just saying. Just saying. Any other issues you boys have, anything stick out that you want to say, hey, Brands, why are you doing this?

Wayne:
So

TIM:
Anyone,

Wayne:
one thing

TIM:
anyone?

Wayne:
I do not like about jocks, and I have to be careful on what I order, is how they use the straps on them and where they’re located. Because what they’re doing, which works for the people that are not beefy, but if you have a big behind, they’re going to be too tight. And what they’re trying to do is lift people

TIM:
Mm-hmm.

Wayne:
that don’t have a butt. And it does not work for the people that do have one. So that’s an issue with me. I can’t wear everything. There is one company. I’m not going to say their name, but I don’t. Yeah,

TIM:
He can tell us afterwards.

Wayne:
I don’t like their jocks because it’s made to lift a small bottom.

TIM:
That’s a good point because there are certain ways to do jocks because if you look at the traditional, you sew it into the side and it goes down. And I had this, I’ve told this before on the podcast, but I had this Calvin Klein jock years ago, many years ago, that all they did was sew the two sides on and then they sort of made a V with the elastic and attached it to the pouch and it came off. So I just have a pouch with a strap on it. And I was like, this kind of defeats the purpose of a jock. But yeah, you want them to attach the jock to the pouch, both sides, not just in the middle where they bunch it up, because those always break on me. They suck. Sorry if you make yours that way, but they

Wayne:
My

TIM:
do.

Wayne:
personal favorite

TIM:
Just

Wayne:
one was

TIM:
saying.

Wayne:
a company used a ring to put between the strap and the connection and so it actually moves when you walk.

TIM:
Huh?

Wayne:
So I do like that option. That’s probably my favorite technique that a company has used.

TIM:
What brand was that?

Wayne:
It was Griffpup.

TIM:
Oh, I’ve not tried that. That sounds very interesting. I’m gonna have to check that out.

Steaks_N_Cakes:
I haven’t tried that either, so I might have to look at that too.

TIM:
you boys in the jocks, because you are gym jock boys.

Steaks_N_Cakes:
My ass get in the air.

TIM:
Well, we see that and we all appreciate it, I think, because I don’t know anyone complaining,

Steaks_N_Cakes:
Or

TIM:
especially when you voice post pictures.

Steaks_N_Cakes:
is it… Yeah, I think that that’s the thing too, is like depending on how they sew the strap to the waistband,

TIM:
Mm-hmm.

Steaks_N_Cakes:
sometimes if it’s not, like, if they just kind of strapped on there quickly and it’s more of like a a fashion jock, again, for someone who’s not really that gifted in the behind area, that tends to, you know, detach or unravel very quickly.

TIM:
Yeah. That’s one thing, though, that a lot of brands don’t address, which you think they would, is having a beefy butt or a bubble butt. Because we have all these different pouches. We have large pouches, extra large pouches, small pouches. But we rarely see anything for the butt. And it’s been that way for years.

Steaks_N_Cakes:
Yeah, and I mean, I don’t expect the underwear to last forever. I get it. It’s going to eventually wear and tear, but I don’t want it to, like, snap off like after the second time I wear it.

TIM:
You’re not buying disposable underwear.

Steaks_N_Cakes:
No, that’s typically stuff that you buy on Amazon. That’s like $5.

TIM:
Yeah, because I had someone send me a message today that they wanted to buy white briefs for their followers and he brought up that he, uh, the problem was washing them and keeping them pristine white. I’m like, just throw them away after each use. They’re cheap enough.

Steaks_N_Cakes:
You

TIM:
I don’t

Steaks_N_Cakes:
sound

TIM:
know.

Steaks_N_Cakes:
like Patrick throwing away underwear.

TIM:
I don’t normally condone it, but like, fruit of the loon, white briefs, come on now.

Steaks_N_Cakes:
Oh yeah, those are pretty old school.

TIM:
They’re, you can get six for like 20 bucks, you can just throw them away. You don’t have to. Or you can find someone who would want them. I’m just saying.

Steaks_N_Cakes:
Yep, you could. We’ve had people

TIM:
and

Steaks_N_Cakes:
do that with us before.

TIM:
Patrick should know about that. Now he’s breaking the law because you can’t throw away underwear in Massachusetts. So He’s a rule breaker and a law breaker I guess that’ll wrap up our show. We’re already got a good amount. We’ll definitely have more of these. We’re gonna try to do these at least a quarter. Hopefully we’ll have Stevie back as well because he’s our resident BV boy who shows it all off and the boy is amazing and both all three of these boys show off. I’m the only one who doesn’t because I’m shy. Yeah, that’s my story and I’m sticking to it. So tell everyone where they can find you, Ryan and Will.

Steaks_N_Cakes:
Yeah, so we’re on Instagram and we actually just recently changed our name. So

TIM:
I know.

Steaks_N_Cakes:
we used to be too beefy, too thick, and then we decided to change it to steaks and cakes because we are serving dinner and dessert.

TIM:
Ooh,

Steaks_N_Cakes:
And it’s stakes underscore

TIM:
okay.

Steaks_N_Cakes:
the letter N and then underscore and then cakes, stakes and cakes.

TIM:
So if you’re not following them, I highly recommend you go follow them because they are awesome. And you’ll see a lot of jocks.

Steaks_N_Cakes:
Yeah, we have more racier

TIM:
Just

Steaks_N_Cakes:
stuff

TIM:
saying.

Steaks_N_Cakes:
on Twitter. I don’t know if we changed our Twitter. Did we change that yet? No, I think Twitter’s still too beefy, too thick. That’s still the same.

TIM:
Everyone’s right to your stuff on Twitter because Instagram’s a brood.

Steaks_N_Cakes:
Yeah, Instagram’s getting kind of homophobic.

TIM:
kid and it’s true colors is coming out if you ask me

Steaks_N_Cakes:
Yup.

TIM:
but. What about you Wayne, where can they find you at on

Wayne:
On

TIM:
the

Wayne:
Instagram

TIM:
interwebs?

Wayne:
I am Texan underscore renegade and on Twitter I am Tejas underscore renegade. On Twitter I do have more of my jockstraps from the back view and thongs because once again the metaverse is not gay friendly.

TIM:
No. And I will say that his cakes do look pretty good. I’m just saying, that picture he posted today.

Steaks_N_Cakes:
We agree. We need a picture

TIM:
Very

Steaks_N_Cakes:
of the

TIM:
good.

Steaks_N_Cakes:
three of us at some

Wayne:
We

Steaks_N_Cakes:
point.

Wayne:
do. I’ll make it out to Orange County

TIM:
Yeah,

Wayne:
one

TIM:
you

Wayne:
of

Steaks_N_Cakes:
I

TIM:
do.

Wayne:
these

Steaks_N_Cakes:
think

Wayne:
days.

Steaks_N_Cakes:
we would break the internet. Yay, we’re gonna do a Disney day.

Wayne:
Oh that does sound fun.

TIM:
Uh oh, Disney Day. You’ll need a loan to do Disney Day, but it’s like Disney World. Ugh. It’s too expensive

Steaks_N_Cakes:
Yeah,

TIM:
now.

Steaks_N_Cakes:
Disneyland is not as bad as Disney World, but it’s getting close.

TIM:
Well, it’s what gets Stevie to give us the rundown on Disney, because I don’t know where he stayed, but I know he did like he did the bear pull party and boys are wearing their thongs at the bear pull party. So that makes me happy that beefy boys are wearing whatever they want to now. Yeah. And he went to the parks I saw and I’m just like, I’m living my best life through Stevie because. I’m now. Could be classified a home shut-in, so yay. Anybody wanna bring me meals on wheels, feel free. So you can find me at UMBTEM on everything, Instagram, Twitter, Mastodon, you name it, I’m on all of it right now, so yay. Well, thank you boys for coming on. We’ll have you all back soon and you’ll hear Will and Ryan and possibly Wayne on our group show at the end of the month. So stay tuned for that and we’ll have another podcast hopefully next week. I have some in the works and we should be back on a regular schedule people. Have a good one. Bye

Wayne:
Bye,

TIM:
everyone.

Wayne:
thanks for having

Steaks_N_Cakes:
Bye

Wayne:
me

Steaks_N_Cakes:
everybody.

Wayne:
on

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Male Power has always been synonymous with exceptional comfort and style in men’s underwear. With the launch of Male Power 2023-2, the brand takes it a step further by incorporating the antibacterial and skin-friendly benefits of Bamboo Lycra fabric. This collection represents the perfect fusion of comfort, freshness, and sustainability, offering you an underwear experience. Step into the world of Male Power 2023-2 and rediscover the joy of wearing underwear that feels incredible and supports your well-being. So why wait? Treat yourself to a few pairs of Male Power 2023-2 and embark on a new level of comfort and confidence.

Since its inception in 2013, Curbwear has been revolutionizing the world of men’s underwear, challenging traditional norms and empowering individuals to express their unique identities. As the brand celebrates its 10th anniversary, it’s a perfect time to reflect on its journey and impact. From its iconic metro shoot with model Ben to the recent shoot at Camber Sands featuring model Jacob, Curbwear has consistently pushed boundaries, offering bold and innovative styles that inspire confidence. Let’s delve into the remarkable story of Curbwear and explore the exciting new styles that mark this significant milestone.

A Decade of Progress:
The brand burst onto the scene in 2013 with its groundbreaking Identity range, which allowed men to showcase their sexual tastes through their underwear. This bold move challenged conventions and sparked conversations about self-expression and acceptance. Curbwear quickly gained recognition and a devoted following as people resonated with the brand’s commitment to embracing individuality.

The Metro Shoot and Model Ben:
One of the defining moments in Curbwear’s history was the infamous metro shoot featuring model Ben. This shoot captured the essence of the brand’s philosophy, showcasing the confidence and allure that Curbwear’s designs imbue in its wearers. Ben became a symbol of the brand’s ethos, representing the diverse and empowered individuals who choose Curbwear as their go-to underwear.

New Styles and Model Jacob:
As Curbwear looks forward to the next chapter, it continues to evolve and introduce fresh designs for 2023. The brand’s latest shoot at Camber Sands in East Sussex, England, features model Jacob, whose athletic background in rugby brings new energy to the brand. With his cheeky grin, thick legs, and perfect bum, Jacob is poised to make a significant impact. The new styles unveiled, such as the colorful camo micro briefs, the star brief, and the return of the popular button brief, exemplify Curbwear’s commitment to staying at the forefront of fashion and meeting the desires of its diverse clientele.

Celebrating a Decade of Support:
Curbwear’s 10-year anniversary wouldn’t be possible without the unwavering support of its customers and fans. Over the years, the brand has cultivated a tight-knit community that shares its self-expression, body positivity, and inclusivity values. This collective enthusiasm has propelled Curbwear to new heights and ensured its continued success. The brand expresses its heartfelt gratitude to everyone who has been a part of its journey, from the early adopters to the loyal supporters who have championed the brand’s vision.

As Curbwear celebrates a decade of pushing boundaries and inspiring confidence, it remains a trailblazer in the men’s underwear industry. From its inception with the groundbreaking Identity range to the latest shoot at Camber Sands, the brand has consistently offered innovative styles that empower individuals to express themselves authentically. As we look ahead, it’s clear that Curbwear’s impact will continue to grow, inspiring men worldwide to embrace their individuality, celebrate their bodies, and feel confident in their own skin.

To join the celebration of Curbwear’s 10th anniversary and explore its remarkable journey, you can visit the full birthday story here:

Show off your big ol’ pride with the fun and fabulous new Pride Stripe Jock underwear. This super cute rainbow design will truly give you something to be proud of. And with the help of our slimming waistband and built-in ALMOST NAKED® pouch, you’ll feel like you’re not wearing anything at all! AC is virtually eliminated sticking, squashing, re-adjusting, sweating, or chafing. Your package will fall naturally into the anatomically correct pouch to create a truly enjoyable and unique wearing experience.

Swimwear Sunday is here, and it’s time to dive into a thrilling new adventure in swimwear fashion! Prepare to be dazzled by the first-ever swim thong introduced by 2EROS. Inspired by the mesmerizing glimmer and shimmer of the summer sun’s rays dancing on the Hawaiian waters, the V80 swim thong is set to revolutionize your beachwear game.

Imagine a low-rise fit that enhances your pelvic line, giving you that coveted V taper that will make heads turn wherever you go. The V80 swim thong embraces your body with a contoured front pouch, providing a natural lift and ample room for comfort. It’s the perfect blend of style and functionality.

Designed with the modern man in mind, these swim thongs are lightweight and unrestrictive, allowing you to showcase your physique confidently. It’s ideal for those who want to make a bold statement and leave a lasting impression.

But let’s not just take our word for it. The campaign models, standing at an impressive 184cm and 81kg and 187cm and 90kg, are proudly strutting their stuff in size M V80 swim thongs. And our stunning 189cm and 87kg product model is also rocking the size M with utmost confidence. These swim thongs are designed to flatter various body types and make every man feel like a superstar.

Now, let’s dive into the exciting features that make the V80 swim thong a must-have for any beachgoer. The front micro-mesh lining not only offers support but also provides a natural lift that accentuates your assets. Made from a 4-way stretch fabric, these swim thongs offer maximum mobility, allowing you to move freely and comfortably as you soak up the sun. Plus, they’re quick-drying, ensuring you stay comfortable for extended periods.

Let’s not forget about the material itself. The V80 swim thong is crafted from a blend of 80% recycled nylon and 20% elastane, making it an environmentally conscious choice. It’s made from REPREVE®, a sustainable and certifiable fabric that upholds high-quality standards while reducing environmental impact. So you can strut your stuff confidently, knowing you’re making a positive choice for the planet.

So, gentlemen, it’s time to step up your swimwear game and make a splash with the revolutionary V80 swim thong from 2EROS. Whether you want to make a statement or enjoy the beach in style, this swim thong is your go-to choice. Get ready to turn heads, exude confidence, and embrace the summer vibes like never before. Let the sun, sand, and waves be your stage, and let the V80 swim thong be your ultimate style companion.

Saltwater therapy!

Experience the thrill of surfing the vibrant waves of Rio de Janeiro with MODUS VIVENDI’s Inclusive Swimwear Line.

MODUS VIVENDI unveils colorful summer Swimwear Line for Swimwear 2023 Collection named “Inclusive” from the “Surfer” Campaign. MODUS VIVENDI, known for its cutting-edge designs, is thrilled to announce the launch of its latest Swimwear Line for the summer season. With a strong focus on inclusivity, the brand aims to empower individuals of all shapes, sizes, and backgrounds to embrace their unique style and confidently ride the waves of summer.

Drawing inspiration from the vibrant colors of Brazil and Rio De Janeiro’s nature, this campaign embodies the essence of carefree beach days and adventurous surfing expeditions. Embracing the spirit of adventure and the beauty of the ocean, since Rio de Janeiro is synonymous with incredible surf spots and a laid-back beach lifestyle, MODUS VIVENDI invites everyone from all walks of life to ride the waves and soak up the sun in style this summer.

MODUS VIVENDI understands that everyone deserves to feel comfortable and fashionable during their beach adventures. With this ethos in mind, the brand has meticulously designed each piece to enhance both style and functionality, ensuring that every individual can enjoy their summer activities to the fullest.

Inclusive Swimwear Line showcases an array of patterns and colors with all-over customized printed design, reminiscent of crashing waves and breathtaking sunsets. Totally inspired by the whole color palette, offered on updated silhouettes, is serving the need of a statement that in MODUS VIVENDI world, all human beings are included. From bold and vivid hues to subtle pastel tones, this captivating Line offers a spectrum of options for every personality and taste.

Discover the “Surfer” Campaign here.

Shop products here.

Credits

Photography / Video Director: Gastohn Barrios @gastohn.barrios

Model: Henrique Fraga @henriquefragaoficial

Executive Production: Matias Santos @matusantos

Video Camera: Luiz Júnior & Matias Santos

In-Site Producer: Flávio Jardim

Stylist: Sergio Araneo

Campaign: The Surfer

Line: Inclusive Swimwear Line

Location: Rio de Janeiro, Brazil